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Monday, December 19, 2011

"The Reason for the Season..." 'Davis "3-D" Danizier'


Guest blogger Davis Danizier “3-D”  began life as a political and religious conservative, even entering into formal Seminary studies. Gradually, he became troubled by inconsistencies in factual assertions and values in both political and religious conservatism and, after deeply traumatic soul searching, reversed course in both areas. After retiring from a career in commercial property and casualty insurance, Dave has had the free time and flexibility to share with others some of the thoughts that led to his life-altering epiphanies. His book “Betrayal of Jesus” presents unorthodox (believers might say heretical) perspectives on the Christian mythology. Dave currently resides in Oceanside, California.

About  "3-D"Danizier

"Be wise. Be wild. Care for others. Love your neighbor as yourself. The mysteries of the universe are not beyond your grasp."   https://danizier.wordpress.com

The Reason for the Season

It’s beginning to look (and sound) a lot like Christmas! And that means it won’t be long before the religious conservatives commence their paranoid fantasies of a mythical “war on Christmas” while they try to justify using public resources to make everyone else participate in their religious observances and rituals, pursuing their ultimate goal of socialized religion since they apparently don’t trust that their churches, homes and religious schools are up to the task.
And of course, they will go around telling us that “Jesus is the reason for the season.” But what of this season? Certainly Jesus joins Santa Claus as a favored icon of this jolly time of year.
Both of these myths originate from actual persons who supposedly existed (though there is no certainty of documentation for either), Jesus of Nazareth and Saint Nicolas, Bishop of Myra. But from what sketchy facts we have about either of these men, much myth, legend, fantasy and magic has evolved.
Both of these myths represent legends in which they offer free gifts — Jesus brings salvation and Santa brings toys to children. In both cases, the gifts are unconditional, well, with the exception that in each case they do have the requirement that you believe in them. At one time in my life, I believed in a real, literal Santa Claus who brought me presents for Christmas. Still later, I believed in a real, literal Jesus as savior who magically makes my “sins” disappear in return for accepting a human sacrifice. While I have outgrown the literal belief in the magical, fantasy aspects of both mythologies, I continue to embrace and celebrate the spirit of joy, love and (almost) unconditional giving represented by each.
But is Jesus (or Santa Claus) the “reason for the season”? Actually, not even close. There are four seasons, summer, spring, fall and the current approach season of WINTER. And the REASON for this approaching winter season is the winter solstice! The Solstice was celebrated long before Jesus' birth, in all parts of the world, in different ways.
In the Roman Empire, the Solstice celebration was a drunken orgiastic bacchanal celebrating all the earthly pleasures on December 25, in recognition of the lengthening days, called the Saturnalia after their god Saturn who, even in modern astrology (which originates from ancient times), is the ruler of the winter season. (More people who read their horoscopes each morning are actually worshiping the Greek gods than Christians do.)
When Rome converted to Christianity, the Romans had two problems: First, people may change their beliefs but, like me and many former Christians, we're less willing to give up our favorite holidays, even when the religious beliefs behind them change, and neither were the Romans. Second, the new church was honoring various saints on their birthdays, but the most central figure of the entire faith, Jesus himself, had been born in a humble stable and no one knew the exact day, though most scholars suspect it most likely sometime in the Spring.
Assigning Jesus' birthday to December 25 and making it the biggest holiday of the new religion, addressed both of these problems. And as Christianity spread north, it imported many pagan traditions, including traditions of holly wreaths that bear their fruits in the depths of winter and evergreen trees that stay green when others are bare. Also added were yule logs for winter warmth, Father Winter, who was blended into the mythology of St. Nicholas, bishop of Myra, to evolve into Santa Claus, and pagan myths of elves and a magical North Pole, along with some leftover revelry and drunkenness from the old Saturnalia.
The new traditions co-opted and replaced the Saturnalia and a new super-holiday was born, still centered on the Solstice, and still based on the reason for celebrating that season, the wither solstice and the lengthening of days it heralded.
Christmas was here before Jesus, and while the addition of the Christian tradition is one important component of Christmas, the holiday still goes on with or without him. Jesus is not the “reason for the season,” and Christmas is but one of many holidays celebrated during this season.

About  "3-D"Danizier

"Be wise. Be wild. Care for others. Love your neighbor as yourself. The mysteries of the universe are not beyond your grasp."

For a shorter version of this blog check out "3D's" opinion article in the North country Times(serving North San Diego and Riverside counties) on 12-09-11"The reason for the season." http://www.nctimes.com/news/opinion/letters/letters-nct-dec/article_f3a56b52-0f5c-5d9f-90b4-d71c0874f605.html
Editor's note, Dakinetalk guest bloggers do not necessarily represent the opinions of dakinetalk. Guest bloggers are given space to express their beliefs and or opinions. We feel there are many roads and like to give people space to express their thoughts,after-all that's what dakine is...Aloha, James "Kimo" Rosen, Publisher.
for more insights into Dave's thoughts check out his blog at; https://danizier.wordpress.com

15 comments:

"3-D" said...

via facebook;"Have posted a link on my page, too!"

James "Kimo" Rosen said...

Great, I will post your link again right here, for anybody who wishes to read more similar blogs by 3-D click below; https://danizier.wordpress.com

Steven M Eayrs said...

via facebook;"Don't argue with soltice celebrations being around long before Jesus walked this earth, but really...."not enough documentation to prove he existed" .......Are you Serious? Its hard to find a person in history who has more documentation."

"3-D" said...

via facebook;"Outside of the Bible, whose accounts of Jesus were written decades after his death (in a time when memories could not be aided with photos, videos, civil documentation other than for the wealthiest and most powerful, or even easily accessible cheap paper to jot notes on), external corroboration of Jesus' existence are almost completely nonexistent.

There are many, many older figures from history (Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Chinese and other rulers) whose lives are much more completely documented and corroborated, and even some of the key events of the New Testament era of Roman rule, such as the
"worldwide census" supposedly ordered by Cæsar Augustus, have no corroboration, and external events described in Luke contradict those described in Matthew.

No, Steven, there is virtually no external, extrabiblical corroboration for the existence of Jesus.
That said, where there's smoke, there's fire and, as I write on my site, someone taught the brilliant, insightful teachings attributed to Jesus, and someone or something created a stir so powerful that it resonated for those decades before being written down (however much memories or embellishments had become distorted by time), and it seems most probable that a person named Jesus (Yeshua bar Joseph) did exist."

Steven M Eayrs said...

via facebook;"Your start "outside of the Bible", as if it doesn't exist, betrays the truth, which is that you simply have made a choice to no believe in Jesus, or that Jesus was who he said was, and still is."

Steven M. Eayrs said...

via facebook;"I choose to believe in Him, and appreciate your last part, "where theres smoke theres fire".....And theirs plenty of smoke for sure. Merry Christmas, and happy Solstice to you Davis."

"3-D" said...

via facebook;"Steven, trying to use a work, such as the Bible or anything else as evidence for itself would be the epitome of circular reasoning.

You can't use something as "corroboration" of itself, especially as "evidence" of events that occurred many decades before anyone actually wrote them down, during which time memories could be altered by time or embellishment.

I am certainly not disputing the right to believe in such accounts, any more than I dispute the fact that the ancient Greek, Roman and Egyptian myths also include historical references, but there are few today who take the more fantastic accounts of magic or supernatural events too literally."

Steven M. Eayrs said...

via facebook;"excuse the poor grammer....I just reread what I wrote...but sure you can get the idea."

"3-D" said...

via facebook;"And for this festive season, best wishes for Peace on Earth Goodwill to all — and Happy Thanksgiving, Happy Hanukkah [חנוכה], Sunny Solstice, Glad Yule, Merry Christmas, Joyous Kwanzaa, Happy New Year, Blessed Epiphany and Reverent Ramadan [رمضان] and Festive Feast of Eid ul Adha [عيد الأضحى]."

Steven M. Eayrs said...

via facebook;"If the Bible is looked at as many books, which it is, and many accounts of the same Jesus, both telling and for-telling about Him, it cannot simply be excused as circular reasoning."

"3-D" said...

via facebook;"There are NO verses in the Old Testament that "fore-tell" of anything unambiguously related to Jesus Christ. There are several verses, notably from Isaiah and Micah, that are often cited as "examples," but every one of these passages has disqualifying references showing that they could not apply to Jesus as described in the New Testament.

And none of the gospels of the New Testament accounts of Jesus' life were written in less than 30-40 years after his death. They are compilations of oral traditions embellished by time and exaggeration, and there are proven factual errors and internal inconsistencies among the accounts.

Again, they clearly suggest the existence of a person who lived by the name of Jesus. They hardly rise to the level of confirmed, objective documentation."

Steven M. Eayrs said...

via facebook;" Really pointless in continuing our conversation if nothing that is written, at a time in history that not much was written about most people, and rarely anything about someone who was not a politician, is considered bogus. And there was a time when oral traditions passed down to the next generation carried a fair bit of weight and there was a lot of responsibility to tell it right. SO blessings to you Davis.....I will move on."

"3-D" said...

via facebook;"You are correct, Steven, that not much (if anything) was written about most people of that time.

The existences of most people of that time cannot be objectively documented. That includes Jesus.

That was exactly the point I was making."

James "Kimo" Rosen said...

and the winner is...great debate gentlemen...

Harmony said...

via facebook;"if I could only pick one, I would rather believe in Santa Claus."