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Monday, October 6, 2014

"No world peace amongst modern day bullies... (Kimo's world #35)

James “Kimo” Rosen is a retired professional photographer living in
Kapa'a with his best friend Obama Da Dog, Rosen also blogs as a hobby... 

Kimo's world #35

No world peace amongst modern day bullies...

I read with interest in our local newspaper; Lisa Ann Capozzi's front page article on bullying. "The bullying effect." 
http://thegardenisland.com/news/local/the-bully-effect/article_081a90b2-46e1-11e4-83c5-179d6ae46270.html

She mentions the many forms of student bullying, however bullying is prominent for adults too.

One of the major forms of modern day bullying are comment boards  that are available in almost every major periodical and even on Facebook.

Look at most of the comments to stories and even to the letters to editors, most comments are very Venomous towards the writer.

Check out the Facebook pages of any professional sports team or TV show and most comments are hateful.

Check out the editorial page in your local newspaper and forum pages. The comments are bound to  be mean spirited, degrading and negative.

How can we ever expect world peace when we cannot even respect differing  opinions, even on a local level?
Is this not the modern day bully?

Looking forward to  all the upcoming venom and  hateful comments. It amazes me that  the human race is still around.


James "Kimo" Rosen with his Old English Sheepdog
'Kamala' in the foothills of Santa Barbara,1978...

Hana Hou,(Encore) Shared from Facebook...







73 comments:

Harmony Bentosino said...

There is a lot of negative commentary, & it is good you made us aware. On the other hand, there's a lot of positive responses to commentary as well as positive, personal feedback on FB, & in the world. It's a matter of what you look for. Is the glass half empty or half full? There is also the possibility that negative attention is better than no attention.

KimoRosen said...

Harmony, not so much from friends on Facebook, but if you have a political opinion and it is published in a newspaper, chances are you will get slammed with negativity in the comments section, even personal attacks for such things as believing the state of Hawaii needs a ferry system... People no longer debate, they tear each other down, the American way.

Rick Comstock said...

The really sad thing is the thought pattern of bullies. Yes the ones that haunt your opinion with BS comments. The comments that have been eating at their narcissists mind. Or the ones that don't stand in the light but working the evil shadows and contact your employers. The bullies that want to slander you or insult your solutions when they have none. Than shout out anonymously, "Your mother wears army boots." Developing thick skin as to think there attention is better than no attention is just not understanding respect for opinion, Aloha!

KimoRosen said...

Right on Rick Comstock I believe nobody should be allowed to comment anonymously or with a moniker. When your name is on it, most will have some kind of manners. I have been beaten to the pulp with personal attacks that have nothing to do with the editorial a person is commenting on.

Rick Comstock said...

Jimbo.... I stand with my proud name, and I have always listened and made the first corrective apology. I also have laughed at how the county counsel election seen old school bobbing in the water to change the portraits. All for a vote. And some to double down. No grumble just change is coming. So what hurts most a lie or to be bullied. One in the same I think.
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Christina Sanchez said...

Great article Jim, I would say that Newspapers, Editors bait people, like the controversy as it SELLS newspapers, etc. so they have a part in it too. Most articles aren't Ladies Home Journal material, & really if you look how much the world has changed in the 1950's , sex tapes, beheading people would be so taboo, we have become desensitized a sorry state of affairs for sure, I wish we could bring back the good old days, alas gone but not forgotten.

Chester "Unc" Lau said...

via Facebook promo meme;

Yes, world peace is depended on who has the bigger tax dollars for more weapons of destruction !!! we are near a world war to end the planet,if humans cannot have peace, are they able to survive for 2000 years of radiation?

Joni Kamiya-Rose said...

You hit the nail on the head. If you ever read the comments I got on my blog, you'd be in awe. I'm glad these comments don't go straight to my dad or brother for what they do. I'd rather take the hits and speak out for their farm. Hawaii has a ton of modern day bullies and yes, they all come with fake names lately.

KimoRosen said...

Joni, I would not be in awe. I too receive personal attacks that have nothing to do with what I write about nearly every time I have something published outside my blog. My blog is tame because its mainly friends and people that enjoy my writing and sense of humor. I remember one time writing about the superferry and some jackass writes in the comments section, I saw Kimo's dog pooping and he didn't pick up the poop. A total lie to boot, and even if it was true had nothing to do with my article... Oy vey, such is the life of us famous

Joni Kamiya-Rose said...

Amazing how mean people have become in this day and age. I wonder how their kids will turn out with these people as their example. That's the worst part about all of this!

KimoRosen said...

exactly, and I believe so many of these comments from "peace loving yuppies and hippies" that actually believe in world peace...

Joni Kamiya-Rose said...

I call these folks the "malama the aina pono preachers." They love nature, the bees, the butterflies, and the ocean but on the inside, they are dark, vile and disturbed as what's reflected in their comments. Their comments show their true nature

Jaana Makipaa said...

If I were not so exhausted, I would expand on this topic. Bottom line: so many fake people on Kauai who talk about "peace & love & rainbows" but... Holy shit, they are mean little bastards. Mostly passive aggressive and patronizing (to me), and I cannot wait to get further away from them.
Anahola, I'm coming!!! Not soon enough, but better soon than never! Ack! Help!

Joni Kamiya-Rose said...

Jaana,you are right. These activists sent me stuff like I hope you have birth defects in your kids, drink your poison, Barca accusing me of crimes against humanity, and so much more. Heck, who is the damn bully?! I posted these people's comments with names and photos and they blocked me. Good! You should be held accountable for what you say!

Jaana Makipaa said...

I haven't had as much hate "mail" -just a couple PMs from strangers with a lot of cuss words. Mostly from followers of a KKCR radio idiot who I got into a FB fight with (and eventually he blocked me when I started unloading science).

But, the general feeling here is that if you don't speak the same "language" or if you drink diet sodas or don't buy "organic," you're Spawn of Satan.

I haven't been as outspoken about GMOs in my community only because I don't get out very much. So, usually the topic only comes up when I'm grocery shopping and then some idiot looks at my produce choices and wants to "inform" me that it's not organic. (And, as I've complained many times, there are ALWAYS people who speak out when they see me with a Diet Pepsi. A landlord once actually would not rent to me because I showed up with a Diet Pepsi in my hands. THAT is how crazy this community has become.)

I'm disabled and it's exhausting enough to just run basic errands. So, dealing with all this external shit feels like harassment to me in a very big way.

I *never* care what is in someone else's grocery cart --unless it looks really yummy and then I might ask where they found it. I'm very very VERY tired of north shore life in more ways than just this.

Joni Kamiya-Rose said...

What happened to basic manners lately???
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Jaana Makipaa said...

There are very few people with manners around here these days. Many of them actually believe their intentions are good. I do believe they sincerely believe that, but they need SERIOUS lessons on boundaries and what is socially acceptable. They're like a wild pack of animals with no sense at all.

KimoRosen said...

and let us say, AMEN!

KimoRosen said...

I wish more people thought like this meme states...

I don't have to agree with you to like you or respect you.

Jaana Makipaa said...

Yes, Kimo! And I will still treat the nasty people with respect. It's so strange when that respect is not returned. I have strong opinions, but I don't force them on anyone. I guess that is the main difference. (Plus, my opinions usually aren't exactly "my opinions" but what science says. And I only tell the people what science says when they shove me in a corner.)

KimoRosen said...

I could tell you stories, but then i would be as bad as them....

Jaana Makipaa said...

Yes, me too... I posted that Craig's List ad and now feel a little mean about it... But it was so funny and couldn't help myself.

KimoRosen said...

what ad? list it here!

Jaana Makipaa said...

Serious?

Jaana Makipaa said...

My post:

Well, there you have it. Typical north shore self-important nuttiness wrapped tidily into one Craig's List ad.

This woman (who also attached an enormous picture of herself) is looking for a home for herself and her son.

Not only does she require a home in the most expensive location on Kauai, but it must house 2 people, and of course it must be quiet, private *and* walking distance to the beach. Oh, and a work/trade situation. (Basically she wants a free beach house.)

But, it doesn't end there.

She describes herself using the typical north shore verbiage:

1) She is "creative and spiritual" - OK. So what?

2) She is "available to lovingly care for your sanctuary" - FINALLY she is "available!" Aren't we lucky?

3) She is "holistic" - Good to know. Chopped up humans make shitty tenants.

4) She is also "aware" - Aware of WHAT exactly?

5) She uses "Only the best, organic, non-toxic, environmentally friendly cleaning products" - Ok, so, if landlord wants the place genuinely clean, count her out.

6) She is "self-realized." - Alrightie then. So we know she doesn't have Alzheimer's?

She mentions that she has a "steady income," but then let's us know her current position is ending at the end of the month.

Then she goes on to inform us she is celibate. I'm sure all landlords want to know about their tenant's sex-lives (or lack of).

We know nothing about her son. (She was clever to omit that info.)

Fun fact: People who can't resist telling everyone around them that they are "self-aware" tend to have a shitload of drama in their lives. (I've been a Bail Bondsman serving this area for over 10 years, so I kinda know a little about that.)
Jaana Makipaa's photo.

KimoRosen said...

That's outrageously funny! Mahalo for sharing...

Jaana Makipaa said...

It was begging for a critique. I couldn't help myself.
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Jaana Makipaa said...

Craigs list ad


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204644545290785&set=p.10204644545290785&type=1&theater

KimoRosen said...

When people tell me they are vegan or vegetarian, I tell them me too, but I also eat meat... ;-)

Jaana Makipaa said...

As long as you are "self realized," Kimo. (Whatever the hell that means.)

KimoRosen said...

I see a similar ad to yours from a guy who also needs to rent one of the rooms in the two bedroom place he rents. He says no meat in the house and if you must watch TV you need to use headphones, however i would prefer you just read one of my many books from my collection, and if you must eat meat please go out to eat. (who would pay to live like that?) That's why i see the ad often... people must move in and are out in no time..

Anonymous said...

Self-realization is an expression used in psychology, spirituality, and Eastern religions. It is defined as the "fulfillment by oneself of the possibilities of one's character or personality.[1]

In one overview, Mortimer Adler defines self-realization as freedom from external coercion, including cultural expectations, political and economic freedom, and the freedom from worldly attachments and desires etc. read more in Wikipedia;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-realization

Jaana Makipaa said...

I lived with a gal once who was a vegan and we had to actually divide the kitchen in half. She could not even stand meat in the fridge. Very difficult living with these types, and she is still a good friend, but, yikes! Never living together again. LOL!
As for "self realization" -I'm honestly ok with people's beliefs and however they want to twist things. I just can't help but make fun once in a while, because their language is so funny. Such as "holistic and aware." Once again, aware of WHAT?

KimoRosen said...

I wrote a column for the Garden island news and blogged about this exact subject, "Death taxes and eating organic..."

http://dakinetalk.blogspot.com/2013/11/death-taxes-and-eating-organic-james.html

Jaana Makipaa said...

That was brilliant! And so true. The vegan friend I mentioned to you is sick all the time, despite the fact that she really is very knowledgable of diet & what the body needs, so I trust she is getting proper nutrition.

But, who am I to talk. And, this may be my biggest problem. I do have chronic illness (mostly genetically inherited diseases), so, I'm not exactly a "poster child" of health. If anyone understood the level of pain I live with, they would understand why I'm not exactly hung up on living a long life. I don't mean that to sound morbid or as if I have no interest in living, but it's a reality. I will certainly like to live another 10-20 years, but not if my condition worsens. I'm still trying to do the best I can to stay healthy, but, sheesh... I only have one life to live and I really like to enjoy my meals.

Anyway, this makes me an even easier target for people who wish to tell me I am sick because GMOs etc. and it offends me deeply.

Rick Comstock said...

I have always said that Kauai and some of these stories would make a great bathroom reader..... this island has offloaded from the mothership daily nonsense. It's like Kimos favorite show "Utopia" with many perceived styles and everyone fighting and gossiping. Fractured is this island and racked with division. But when I check into CB I find it's all over Hawaii. I kind of laugh when I think the homeless feel so at home here. Mentally the homeless have found the mother load of promise lands, Hawaii. It's the next best thing to 1960. And don't get me started on KKCR, TGI, SA and our selfish old plantation boys in counsel.

Rick Comstock said...

I'm a Bully..

KimoRosen said...

Jaana & Rick, remember, one man's (woman's) meat is another mans poison. I also find it ironic that so many food recalls are with the organic industry...

Jaana Makipaa said...

It's also ironic that most of these antis who demand testing & transparency take supplements -which are very unregulated, untested & usually very fraudulent in their labeling.

KimoRosen said...

Great point Jaana Makipaa

Rick Comstock said...

Can we start a mid week blog....like today....we have to many topics to cover....

Jaana Makipaa said...

Do a blog on KKCR. I'd love to read that. Infinite amount of crazy material on their radio shows.

Rick Comstock said...

.I refuse to listen to "Propaganda Radio"

KimoRosen said...

Rick, start the mid week blog here, now! OK, I will go first! What do you think of TGI's opinion article in today's forum page, "A grown man should know better?"

KimoRosen said...

I think Rick Comstock and Jaana Makipaa should start there own blogs! But you must promise to still read and comment on my blog!

Jaana Makipaa said...

I will definitely try to catch all your blogs and leave comments for sure! I wish I had more time & energy to write blogs, but, I'm too much of a perfectionist & it takes me forever to write something more professional. It's more fun to just goof off on FB 󾌲

KimoRosen said...

Jaana, and anyone on this thread,I am always looking for gust bloggers. I usually only blog one or two times a week, the rest are all guest bloggers... You are welcome anytime 200-500 words, short 2-3 sentence bio and photo...

KimoRosen said...

Jaana, and anyone on this thread,I am always looking for gust bloggers. I usually only blog one or two times a week, the rest are all guest bloggers... You are welcome anytime 200-500 words, short 2-3 sentence bio and photo...

Jaana Makipaa said...

Can I just submit a 200 word rant? Are cuss words allowed?

KimoRosen said...

no cuss words, the Facebook G-ds and others are watching me with a microscope...

Jaana Makipaa said...

Teehee. Ok, no cuss words. Once I settle down, I will think more on what I would write. (It would probably still wind up being a sarcastic rant, though.... )

Rick Comstock said...

"Ricks' View thru a Cracked Rear View Mirror"
More bullying....Even thought it's a TGI article I noticed "anonymous" once again. What's with that?

As I believe a confrontation was mishandle by the adult he acted because no one else stepped up.

Social comments are identifying for by standers to step up, identify, and report. But as we really don't know the history of this particular event we must identify this last resort effort to protect your own child.

I don't like seeing this action and that all people protect family or blood from a emotional level. Knee-jerk reactions do more harm than needs. Or is it passive / aggressive parents waiting to bully that protective parent. How do we provide the correct moral compass to our children. Especially when the climate is, "go ahead hit me ill see you in court."

I also wonder how in the hell did a adult enter that bus. When does the bus driver not react to this. What responsibility is it for a third party contractor to allow this entry?

When does a parent run out of choices because by standers wish to turn a cheek under fear of being sued by a parent that can't control their own child. Just like in an auto accident, don't stop and give aid, don't get involved...it's their problem.

Jaana Makipaa said...

Didn't this occur at a bus stop (not in the actual bus)? Too lazy to read it again, but it wasn't very much information to base much of an opinion on. However, well said, Rick.

KimoRosen said...

Actually my take is much different; The articles main point is there are other ways to deal with such situations? Yes there are other ways however when I was a kid this method would had been acceptable and would had scared the morning breakfast out of the bully.

In the mean time the father of the boy being bullied is arrested and the bully is further encouraged by knowing if he continues to bully and this happens again somebodies parent could again be arrested.

Jaana Makipaa said...

If the boys were only name-calling, it should be enough for an adult to yell, "cut it out." Maybe add a threat of some kind (such as reporting the kid to his parents).
But, if there was physically violent behaviour such as pushing & shoving, then I'd probably grab the kid by the ears & march him off to his parents.

But, times have changed. I am not even sure if I'd get arrested just for pulling a kid's ears.

I like that parents are not allowed to beat the cr*p out of their kids (or other's kids). I'd much rather our kids are safe & that parents are forced to find non-violent ways to discipline their kids. But the laws are also too unclear & cases can differ so much.

For example, if a bully had any sort of potential weapon (baseball bat or knife) & things were clearly escalating or had already become violent, I would most definitely go into much higher alert & maybe even whack the bully with my cane -repeatedly- until he backs down and then march him to his parents. I'd probably get arrested for that, but, if a case clearly needs physical intervention & a cripple like me is on the scene, I may not be strong enough to handle it in a gentler way (such as restraining the kid). So, what other choice would I have but to start swinging my cane? (LOL! I'm laughing at how funny I would look whacking someone with my cane like an old lady! )

I need to ask my cop friend exactly where they draw the line, but I'm pretty sure cane-whacking would be a crime even if I didn't really injure the kid.

Rick Comstock said...

..yes it did happen at a school bus....but as you said, 'maybe you didn't read it correctly'. And Jimbo I did not see anything suggesting alternative solutions. Just a report of the misbehavior or crime by anonymous. I also see at my first attempt at blogging that "you all are nuts" But the idea ( IMO ) is blog from two sides as to get people to think outside the box and maybe accept alternative opinions. What I see in;
"Ricks' View from a Cracked Rear View Mirror"
is my view and it could have cracks in its after thought.......

KimoRosen said...

Cane whacking, that would show them! ;-0)

KimoRosen said...

Parents can no longer spank their kids in horror of their offspring reporting it to the department human services. A father can no longer protect his child with good old punishment that would most probably work.

This reminds me of the case not to long ago where a man was arrested for making his son walk home form school as a punishment.

We are raising a nations of wimps that as adults will not have a clue.

Spare the rod and spoil the child.

Rick Comstock said...

Please refrain from bullying my blog. I have the right to remove your comments.....Take a chill pill..... Oh I love the control of my blog!

Opps not my blog sorry jumbo..... (my satire)

KimoRosen said...

Ha!

Rick Comstock said...

Do I catch on quick?

KimoRosen said...

You da man, bruddah!

Rick Comstock said...

Ok now.....remember we still have that, 'After Hours Blogging with Rick and Jimbo' .... after the kids are in bed....descriptive adjectives and phonograph and the correct way to blog with them is the topic....

Jaana Makipaa said...

The problem is the people who take spanking to a whole other level. This is why I appreciate that we have an agency that looks after the welfare of children, but, it's a tricky situation and too many grey areas... Spanking is still allowed, isn't it? I was so lucky that my kid was generally a very well-behaved boy and I hardly ever had to give him a spanking. A "time out" & taking away privileges was far more effective with him. But, I realize I also lucked out big time.

Chester "Unc" Lau said...

Even passionate religious cause sectarian wars !!!

Rick Comstock said...

Come on Chester...are you the pin that pops the balloons?....

KimoRosen said...

The paper said they were not disclosing the mans name because it is alleged. Guess they're changing policy?
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Rick Comstock said...

No Jimbo...it's the anonymous crap with double standards....And when you catch them at it they hide behind the black ink of their article. But guess what the famous Tom at TGI loves posting names on arrest doesn't matter if someone is innocent before being proven guilt. Disgusting and I've been there. You were made guilty also....but WTF it sells there crapy news paper.

Jaana Makipaa said...

thought when you said "anonymous" you were referring to the person who wrote this lettre. I couldn't find a name & was feeling hopeful, because I've tried submitting a few lettres to TGI with pseudonym Sam U. L. Clemens, but they wouldn't allow it.

As for the man's name, it's public record whether he likes it or not. If he's lucky, it doesn't get posted in the blotter (they don't print all arrests & I don't know who decides what gets omitted).

Rick Comstock said...

Yes I said what I said and I stand by it. Anonymous was the writer at TGI. And all arrests are alleged until convicted in a court of law. But they arrest people on burglary and then when it come to trial they lose and in the mean time TGI blots names as convictions.....not right.
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Jaana Makipaa said...

I agree. The law is "innocent until proven guilty." Not sure how that got overlooked by newspaper police blotters.
So, if someone can submit an anonymous letter to TGI, can I start using my pseudonym?

KimoRosen said...

It was TGI's opinion section, (in our opinion) usually written by the editor or associate editor as they represent the paper. Most papers do not sign the name to their opinion articles but is understood as the one of the many jobs of an editor.

KimoRosen said...

Ok Sam U. L. Clemens, go for it!